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odooa 发表于 2008-7-3 14:07

MDB validate question

請問版上的大大
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BTf;bA8IU3yq0M0{ 關於側撞所使用的台車 MDB 的驗證練習
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檔案e_eevcwg13fe.xml  在user manual 當中validate 的曲線 如附件
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[[i] 本帖最后由 odooa 于 2008-7-3 14:09 编辑 [/i]]

darry 发表于 2008-7-3 14:42

你通过输出时间-力曲线和时间-位移曲线，把两条曲线合成一条输出就ok啊

odooa 发表于 2008-7-3 15:26

先謝謝樓上的答覆 U-EN[;a?
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話雖如此，難道沒有更簡便的方式嗎？
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因為我自己也有試過  但是力量曲線和手冊上面的有所不同  如附檔
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[[i] 本帖最后由 odooa 于 2008-7-3 16:25 编辑 [/i]]

odooa 发表于 2008-7-3 17:06

對不起  我錯了
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liuxj 发表于 2008-7-4 18:41

[quote]原帖由 [i]odooa[/i] 于 2008-7-3 17:06 发表 [url=http://www.simwe.com/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1373265&ptid=839399][img]http://www.simwe.com/forum/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
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odooa 发表于 2008-7-8 11:58

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welsonzhu 发表于 2008-7-8 14:01

墙体的单元尺寸太大，还有在CONTACT.MB_FE的接触中，如果FE如果定义为MATERIAL.NULL，并且FULL Supported，接触力的计算采用特性的方式，即CONTACT_FORCE.CHAR

odooa 发表于 2008-7-8 16:28

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